A REALLY Weird PC… - System76 Thelio Review

  • Published: 16 June 2019
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    There’s more than one company that makes its own operating system and hardware, and today, we’re taking a look at System76’s Thelio, an open source design you can build yourself.

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Comments • 4 249

  • Linus Tech Tips
    Linus Tech Tips   1 months back

    Use offer code LINUS to get 20% off everything on https://lmg.gg/mospack4

    • Kian Moore
      Kian Moore  5 days back

      Do a review on SuperTuxKart. Just so you can be confused

    • midnightwolf
      midnightwolf  2 weeks back

      Still not big enough to replace my old Targus built for 2 very thick laptops, and tons of accessories.

    • alysdexia
      alysdexia  3 weeks back

      @lazypizzaguy gibberish

    • pxc
      pxc  4 weeks back

      @alysdexia is the pricing actually that tilted in Apple's favor?

  • Slow_riding
    Slow_riding  5 hours back

    I am more fedora but still nice!

    • D Cobb
      D Cobb  7 hours back

      System 76 are great, but I'd wipe the entire drives and replace POP with a better linux OS myself.

      • Jeffrey Allen
        Jeffrey Allen  2 days back

        I just ordered a new Dell Laptop with Windows 10. I wanted a System 76 but could not afford one of their systems. They are sleek and beautiful. And ready to go with linux installed. No muss, no fuss. But, I am looking forward to wiping out the Windows 10 and installing linux mint when it arrives. That will be very satisfying. After support for Windows 7 goes away, Microsoft Windows will no longer reside in my home on any of my pc's...

        • gilkesisking
          gilkesisking  3 hours back

          @Jeffrey Allen Yeah, they are there but for some reason Dell hide that option from finding easily. Last time I looked the term "ubuntu" found them in the search.

        • Jeffrey Allen
          Jeffrey Allen  8 hours back

          @gilkesisking I had heard just exactly that. So I went to the Dell web site and looked at the laptops. The only options for OS were Windows 10 and Chrome. I could have called but didn't.

        • gilkesisking
          gilkesisking  15 hours back

          You do realise that Dell sell Linux Laptops? and if you pick up a new release quickly they're usually about 100 cheaper because no Windows Tax... overpaid to support Miscroshite. ( You can now also buy Thinkpads with Linux along with a few other brands )

        • Jeffrey Allen
          Jeffrey Allen  1 days back

          @Gabriel Lesta I'm familiar with Mint and have run it on my old laptop without difficulty. Never looked into Pop!_os.

        • Gabriel Lesta
          Gabriel Lesta  2 days back

          Why Linux mint and not Pop!_OS?

      • I C
        I C  2 days back

        Does it come with a duffel bag?

        • Maggie M
          Maggie M  3 days back

          Very good review. Shows good and needs improvement areas.

          • techmouse1101
            techmouse1101  4 days back

            "Compile your own kernel"? "Hunt down repos"?
            Jesus tapdancing christ what year is it??

            If you think you still have to compile your own kernel for any ubuntu based distro, then please stop making videos about Linux. You're obviously not prepared for it. To my knowledge, Gentoo is the only distro where you have to do this. This misinformation is exactly why so many windows users have the completely wrong idea about Linux. Please stop spreading 2004 Linux memes. You're only creating more work for us to undo.

            • techmouse1101
              techmouse1101  1 days back

              @BlackBallBouncer Okay first, IF it's a joke, then why do so many people treat it like it's a fact? Do you know how often I tell random people, "No, you don't have to compile your own kernel. No, you don't have to compile all of the software from scratch. No, Linux isn't an illegal OS." If it's a joke, then all of the people who tell the joke don't get the joke themselves.

              Second, he's obviously not joking. At 2:05 he says he doesn't use Linux. There's no way to misinterpret that.

              At 2:22, he puts a white censor box over his username and mountable file systems and a brown box at the top to hide his username again. He is obviously new to Linux, doesn't understand it's security, and doesn't know if it's safe to show his username to the public. Unless his username was something offensive, this was clearly just paranoia about something he doesn't understand.

              At 2:35 he mispronounces Ubuntu. He also acts like the concept behind PopShop is something new to Linux. It's not. We've had driver managers and software centers for over a decade now. Where do you think apple and google got the idea from?

              At 4:40 he says video editing isn't very good right now for Linux. He says this because he doesn't yet understand Linux software and how you don't have to become attached to one specific tool. He was also comparing ports of consumer video editors and he doesn't know about Linux's own video editing tools and libraries windows users would never know about. And they're extremely powerful. I wrote a program myself with them that trimmed a 12 hour video clip down to 9 hours, in under 10 seconds. This is unthinkable on windows.

              His general approach to and a lot of what he was saying about Linux resonates as someone who hasn't even begun to shake off all of the bad habits windows teaches. He may know a lot about a great many number of topics, but Linux isn't one of them and he shouldn't be making Linux videos until he learns more about it first.

            • BlackBallBouncer
              BlackBallBouncer  1 days back

              Calm down, it's just a meme. I personally just setup a Pop!_Os dual boot with my windows the other day, and am loving it so far. Was extremely easy. I think he was just saying it as a joke

          • Sarah Lanier
            Sarah Lanier  4 days back

            You had me at us made

            • Keith Olson
              Keith Olson  5 days back

              Huh. So, as the design is OS, there is nothing stopping anyone from creating a 3d-printable base that the computer can sit on which incorporates a filter and noise suppression of some sort. Neat!

              • MacroWaveDude
                MacroWaveDude  5 days back

                Watching on the 19in system 76 laptop XD

                • Dave Snigier
                  Dave Snigier  5 days back

                  Great video! Love what system76 is doing

                  • Michael Cloutier
                    Michael Cloutier  5 days back

                    Where the hell have you been for the last 20 years. There have been Linux Vendors making prebuild and installed desktop and laptop Linux systems for a long time, and including support contracts for those systems. What are you on about? I have purchased Linux systems for some of my customers as fare 18 years ago.

                    • blizzardjesus
                      blizzardjesus  6 days back

                      I love that case... if i could hackintosh it, it would be the ultimate computer.

                      • JackRedstonia
                        JackRedstonia  6 days back

                        Well, okay, though I'd prefer just keeping Pop!_OS on the machine since it's a superior choice compared to Windows and MacOS

                      • blizzardjesus
                        blizzardjesus  6 days back

                        because i hate windows and linux...

                      • JackRedstonia
                        JackRedstonia  6 days back

                        Why would you use something as locked down as MacOS?

                    • Anonymous Linux Nerd
                      Anonymous Linux Nerd  6 days back

                      Didn’t Linus code Linux.

                      • nooboobtoob
                        nooboobtoob  7 days back

                        I use PopOS as my second partition. Love it so far.

                        • carringbushpet
                          carringbushpet  1 weeks back

                          There is a lot of dislikes about the 'seizure inducing' B-Roll footage. I think the concept of it was simple and brilliant, it was aesthetically great. Probably just needed a little less strobe type footage.

                          • xaGe
                            xaGe  1 weeks back

                            Listening to you speak about Linux in the 1st few minutes you can definitely tell you are not familiar with anything Linux from the last 3+ years. I cringed when you start talking about having to compile kernels or finding the necessary repos.

                            • Wsdag Saesrgt
                              Wsdag Saesrgt  7 days back

                              I agree. These days Linux will install and run just as simply and reliably for most users as either Windows of MacOS. The most likely fail case would be wifi cards, arising from selecting one of those distros that requires you to add a repo for "non-free" drivers. Even a small amount of research should help you avoid this problem. Since Windows users sometimes have to spend a lot of time finding and installing drivers, it' would be disingenuous to suggest that's a "Linux problem".

                          • homelessEh
                            homelessEh  1 weeks back

                            The ultimate Hipster Compy!!!! its nostalgic looking free open source os bra and its expencive..social signal for both hey im frugal look i use a free os but paid the same or more for a shillputer.

                            • homelessEh
                              homelessEh  1 weeks back

                              pop os has me sold i refuse to Pay for winblows 10 .. once 7 becomes Deader then vista.. its pop os by then it will be super mature and fully fleshed out by then.

                              • Zi&D
                                Zi&D  1 weeks back

                                I always thought Linus was for Linux

                                • Dave
                                  Dave  1 weeks back

                                  Rossmann quote: Dont Delay, Buy Today

                                  • Sai Nai
                                    Sai Nai  1 weeks back

                                    bullshit content

                                    • Daniel Rios
                                      Daniel Rios  1 weeks back

                                      "Normals" manufacturers should use Linux in their products as well, Linux has a lot of preconception, it is much better than the normal user ever thought

                                      • nope
                                        nope  1 weeks back

                                        {interviewing the thelio parts and quality chart} ....thats a ali express button .

                                        • George B
                                          George B  1 weeks back

                                          Theleos is Greek for perfect

                                          • Littletweeter
                                            Littletweeter  1 weeks back

                                            this pc company is for people that have fuck you money lmao

                                            • Nick Slouka
                                              Nick Slouka  1 weeks back

                                              *LGR signal appears in the sky*

                                              • Christopher Council
                                                Christopher Council  1 weeks back

                                                Did you guys call there support?

                                                • Lanngreen
                                                  Lanngreen  1 weeks back

                                                  had to stop halfway the video because my eyes started hurting from the footage ._.

                                                  • Mikael Kiviniemi
                                                    Mikael Kiviniemi  1 weeks back

                                                    Roses are red
                                                    Violets are blue
                                                    Help me
                                                    I deleted system32

                                                    • skillzorz101
                                                      skillzorz101  1 weeks back

                                                      I think you put the wrong sponsor link in the bio. I'm actually interested in those laptop bags, but Dollar Shave Club is listed.

                                                      • Chrash
                                                        Chrash  1 weeks back

                                                        A couple years ago I was at my grandma's house to use her printer and I got on her PC and it had Linux on it. I couldn't figure out how to navigate it so my grandma had to teach me how to use Linux...

                                                        • Hexality
                                                          Hexality  4 days back

                                                          your grandma is a proud woman

                                                      • sinni800
                                                        sinni800  1 weeks back

                                                        "No motherboard upgrade", but can the BIOS be upgraded to use Ryzen 3? If yes, could probably pop a 3900X in and upgrade the perf a lot?

                                                        • Diego Linde
                                                          Diego Linde  1 weeks back

                                                          Sorry, System76 is too expensive.

                                                          • Leslie Savege
                                                            Leslie Savege  2 weeks back

                                                            I didn't like the website either for the same reasons Linus mentioned.

                                                            Linus shows his ignorance of Linux, when he talks about it, like the way software is loaded, which is pretty standard now. 2:35

                                                            It runs faster and leaner than Windoze, who likes to look over your shoulder.

                                                            • peabody
                                                              peabody  2 weeks back

                                                              I bought a thelio and its very stylish very powerful and DESIGNED to run Linux 0 compatibility issues. Yes i could have built my own, then you are stuck with individual parts that you need to rma if something goes wrong AND may not be compatible with Linux. You see, Ive been running Linux for 3 yrs and will NOT go back to windows........EVER! Hell, windows will not even install on this machine at all. Trust me Ive tried multiple ways and times! IMO it's money well spent!

                                                              • Force
                                                                Force  2 weeks back

                                                                I don't like that 76!

                                                                • Vaijanath Madugolkar
                                                                  Vaijanath Madugolkar  2 weeks back

                                                                  I installed POP on my dell XPS 12. Since POP OS have enforced the disc encryption most of the time when i start my computer it just sits on auth page without response.
                                                                  When i install ubuntu i have choice to not encrypt my disc.

                                                                  • gilkesisking
                                                                    gilkesisking  2 weeks back

                                                                    @Vaijanath Madugolkar :) yeah cool, but you probably want to make yourself one anyway for security.

                                                                    sudo passwd username

                                                                    Just to be on the safe side.

                                                                  • Vaijanath Madugolkar
                                                                    Vaijanath Madugolkar  2 weeks back

                                                                    gilkesisking I just tried installing solution is simply " Simply select to not set a password, and you don't have encryption"

                                                                  • gilkesisking
                                                                    gilkesisking  2 weeks back

                                                                    Disc encryption is done by default during the PopOS install. Its not "enforced", if you don't want that ( say you're a storing game files on the same disk ) then you can select the advanced install option and set it up how you want, with or without encryption.

                                                                • Jan Enemark
                                                                  Jan Enemark  2 weeks back

                                                                  Linus, you should watch https://destinationlinux.org, and then join the program once. These guys will make you much wiser on the posibilities using Linux OS.

                                                                  • Snypa007
                                                                    Snypa007  3 weeks back

                                                                    the 80's background interference is more annoying than the review! I literally can not watch this because of it!

                                                                    • Defunct Lizard
                                                                      Defunct Lizard  3 weeks back

                                                                      You don't need to compile a kernel to install linux, Not everything is gentoo. Jeez linux is super easy to install, learn, and use.

                                                                      • Clovet Music
                                                                        Clovet Music  3 weeks back

                                                                        Expensive done right

                                                                        • Lindsay
                                                                          Lindsay  3 weeks back

                                                                          Proprietary case with open source software thats been unpopular for decades?

                                                                          • Vinicio Coelho
                                                                            Vinicio Coelho  3 weeks back

                                                                            They are awesome bit expensive.

                                                                            • Generic Eric
                                                                              Generic Eric  3 weeks back

                                                                              It's imperative to mention Lutris as well as Proton.

                                                                              • Eli Santana
                                                                                Eli Santana  3 weeks back

                                                                                I know System 76 has to make money but their mark-up on hardware is unacceptably high. They charge RTX 2080 price for a 2070. Come on now. Sell the cards at cost at least.

                                                                                • Kagyu Breigh
                                                                                  Kagyu Breigh  3 weeks back

                                                                                  OMG, this song is from a game or sounds super similar to one! It's on the tip of my brain... uggghh .. I can't even hear what Linus is saying anymore. This.. is killing me

                                                                                  • bean stalker
                                                                                    bean stalker  3 weeks back

                                                                                    Let me introduce your IO to my Dremel.